In this episode, host Dustin Service sits down with David Kolbe, CEO of Kolbe Corp, whose family pioneered psychometric tools that have transformed how we understand human potential. David shares how Kolbe A™ Index helps business owners, teams, and even families identify the conative part of the mind—how you instinctively take action—and leverage it to build stronger, more productive relationships.
They explore why knowing your “instinctive strengths” matters far beyond hiring and HR, and how understanding the four Action Modes can eliminate friction, prevent burnout, and improve collaboration.
The Three Parts of the Mind: Cognitive (thinking), Affective (feeling), and Conative (doing)—and why most people overlook the last one
How Kolbe helps hire the right people for the right role (and what happens when you ignore your instincts)
Quick Start, Follow Through, Fact Finder, and Implementor—the four Action Modes that shape every project and relationship
Why business partners often disagree on hiring and how to get aligned before you make the offer
Using Kolbe in your marriage and parenting to create more empathy and reduce conflict
How AI and robotics may eventually impact hands-on implementer roles
David’s personal lessons on conative strengths, company culture, and leading with curiosity
Notable Quotes:“It’s not about what you can or can’t do. It’s about what you’re meant to do.”“Curiosity costs money. Stagnation costs you your life.”“Understanding your Kolbe results isn’t just for business. It transforms your relationships at home.”
Connect with David Kolbe:
LinkedIn: David Kolbe
Book: Do More, More Naturally
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